conversation one thing that they did not touch on which they should have touched on was immigration and education. but they were guided more by the moderator who did a great job in conducting this. i don't find the debate wanting on substantive issues. >> if you're my age and you are watching this thing and you're worried about medicare and social security, which of these individuals do you believe? >> i think it depends on who you are predisposed to believe. joe biden is a liberal, a new deal. to point outownefirst that, while his own president said is that he's willing to raise the retirement age, joe biden says no. this is a major for medicare and social security. they will not be around. we are the party of the medicare and social security. what about now? what will you do when your own president has said medicare will die unless it is reform? i think he is inclined toward that new deal liberalism. you except what joe biden will say. if you listen to paul ryan, he said we have to amend it. we have to change it. and this is how we will do it. >> i want to get to policy, to appear in a week aft